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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:42 am 
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BearMtnHIB wrote:
I watched your little propaganda video there sport.

Total waste of time. The only answer this guy has is to fleece productive companies and funnel money into the government.

Then what will the government do with the money- nothing.

Same ol shit.


No..You missed the entire point, GET CORPORATE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS

Period, Paragraph!


Because Corporate interests are many times diametricly opposed to ours and the planets interests. And I certainly don't want to subsidize an energy industry that is making hundreds of billions of dollars.

This is why people think you are a phoney, Bear..You demand that poor single mothers stand on thier own, and you bash socalism everyday, then you love Corporate Welfare and you have no problem with the government socailizing corrporate and banking losses? Can't you see were gettin fleeced?

You are either just plan stupid, woefully ignorant or brainwashed..Which is it?

I'm saying a combonation of all three

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:09 am 
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I don't support Corporate Welfare or socializing corporate and banking losses.

Show me a post where I have ever supported this. I dare ya.

If you read the constitution- (and you didn't) - you would know that the people who wrote it were against subsidizing ANYTHING with taxpayer money.

The very few exceptions were...

1) Protection of our rights.
2. Military for fending off invasions and protecting our borders
2) Court system to settle disputes and criminal matters
3) Deliver the mail (Mostly obsolete now)

The constitution was mostly about limiting the governments role in a free society.

Nothing in there about supporting single mothers or providing Obama phones or subsidizing poor people with housing. Nothing in there about creating special treatment for LGBT or special rights for certain races of people. Everyone has the same rights. Nothing in there about giving illegal aliens children birthright citizenship. Nothing in there about bailing out banks or insurance companies or car companies. Nothing in there about helping out the homeless. Nothing in there about providing socialized health care- or any kind of healthcare, the constitution was actually about NOT providing those things. Nothing in there about taxing the labor of the workers.

All those progressive programs were started by lefties in 1916- in violation of the constitution.

And if you read the constitution (and you didn't) you would know that the government was above all- not supposed to be used to take care of the people. Free and prosperous people can take care of themselves- without ANY government interference. Unless you are a lazy ass and want the government to give you free shit- you'll be much better off working for your own keep.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:12 am 
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Hell, the Bill of Rights should have never been in the Constitution! Federalists argued that including it would limit individual rights to those protected by the document instead of reserving only certain rights for the government as was the intention.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:14 am 
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john wrote:
Hell, the Bill of Rights should have never been in the Constitution! Federalists argued that including it would limit individual rights to those protected by the document instead of reserving only certain rights for the government as was the intention.

This is true- but they did say that any rights not listed in the constitution were "reserved to the states"- "or to the people themselves".

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:16 am 
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Yep, that was the compromise. It certainly hasn't been followed.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:31 am 
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Back on topic:

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/ne ... story.html

They cheat at elections and they cheat at science... what else can they work in their favor with cheating?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:42 am 
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“Our error margins are too big now to really weigh in on the precise amount of warming that’s going on in the ocean,” Keeling said. “We really muffed the error margins.”

Just another "prediction" model that (as we know) used fake assumptions and ignored real data.
Don't believe the prediction models- they are fake.
Look at the real data.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:00 am 
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Slickgreen wrote:
For anyone on the left who actually still has a semi-open mind, I'd like to discuss this video interview. Pick any part or parts you want and give the time number so we can find it easy (its only 14 min total). Tell us what is lies or misinformation and we can debate individual points.


Since this is your thread CK, I was hoping you would dispute some or all of what this man is saying. Just pick one point and lets debate it instead of just calling each other names.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:02 am 
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BearMtnHIB wrote:
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“Our error margins are too big now to really weigh in on the precise amount of warming that’s going on in the ocean,” Keeling said. “We really muffed the error margins.”

Just another "prediction" model that (as we know) used fake assumptions and ignored real data.
Don't believe the prediction models- they are fake.
Look at the real data.


This model was developed using Oxygen and CO2 levels rising off of the ocean instead of measuring temperatures..... like that would be more accurate in measuring temps. They think we're idiots.

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@ SG, re: Patrick Michaels.

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In May 1994 Richard Lindzen, Michaels, and Robert Balling served as expert witnesses on behalf of Western Fuels Association in St. Paul, Minnesota to determine the environmental cost of coal burning by state power plants...

On July 27, 2006 ABC News reported that a Colorado energy cooperative, the Intermountain Rural Electric Association, had given Michaels $100,000...

Michaels acknowledged on CNN that 40 per cent of his funding came from the oil industry.

A 2005 article published by the Seattle Times reported that Michaels had received more than $165,000 in fuel-industry funding, including money from the coal industry...
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Michaels)

He's not credible, and clearly is a lobbyist. Has this man done any climatology scientific research in the last quarter-century? Doesn't look that way. Nice try, play again?


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