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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:39 am 
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When you are unable to defend you super left wing posts, resort to name calling. Trying to wedge someone into the wrong hole. I am Libertarian, so much less a fan of passing new legislation to fine and imprison people than you are. So who is the fascist here? A person who wants to force citizens to protect the enviroment by decreasing energy options? A person who wants to ration energy with theats of fines, prison time, and lack of service?
Look in the mirror!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:46 am 
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Tarryall wrote:
When you are unable to defend you super left wing posts, resort to name calling. Trying to wedge someone into the wrong hole. I am Libertarian, so much less a fan of passing new legislation to fine and imprison people than you are. So who is the fascist here? A person who wants to force citizens to protect the enviroment by decreasing energy options? A person who wants to ration energy with theats of fines, prison time, and lack of service?
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I rarely call you a fascist?

And man...We gotta take care of the envioroment..Wasn't Teddy Roosevelt, (your favorite President) a champion of the envioroment? We can't shit were we live- Even dumb dogs knowe that?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:09 am 
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For anyone on the left who actually still has a semi-open mind, I'd like to discuss this video interview. Pick any part or parts you want and give the time number so we can find it easy (its only 14 min total). Tell us what is lies or misinformation and we can debate individual points.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:29 am 
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Golf n Gamble wrote:
Tarryall wrote:
When you are unable to defend you super left wing posts, resort to name calling. Trying to wedge someone into the wrong hole. I am Libertarian, so much less a fan of passing new legislation to fine and imprison people than you are. So who is the fascist here? A person who wants to force citizens to protect the enviroment by decreasing energy options? A person who wants to ration energy with theats of fines, prison time, and lack of service?
Look in the mirror!


I rarely call you a fascist?

And man...We gotta take care of the envioroment..Wasn't Teddy Roosevelt, (your favorite President) a champion of the envioroment? We can't shit were we live- Even dumb dogs knowe that?

I was addressing this to CK. I like the enviroment. I live off the grid on solar power. I have had a forest fire reach my property line in the past two years so I worry about the world heating up. I just don't like many of the current solutions offered.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:59 am 
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Slickgreen wrote:
For anyone on the left who actually still has a semi-open mind, I'd like to discuss this video interview. Pick any part or parts you want and give the time number so we can find it easy (its only 14 min total). Tell us what is lies or misinformation and we can debate individual points.

I watched the whole video- it's typical of and consistent with what the real science has been saying for 25 years.
Another highly qualified expert saying that the reality does not match the hype, I get these 3 points...

1) The surface temperatures on earth are not warming to any significant degree. (actual 0.9 C in 70 years)
2) Fake scientists consistently use false assumptions with prediction models.
3) The real measured temperature data proves massive conflicts with almost all of the models.

I like the environment too- who hates the environment? None of us. But when it comes to the global warming hoax- reality is far different than what the fake science is telling us. I could go into why the earth is thermally self regulating- but I'll be accused of too long a post.

Knowing the reality- the interesting questions are WHY all these false predictions, what is the motive to lie about climate change?

Like my buddy said to me who spent 13 years studying climate data with operation deep freeze in Antarctica- there are entire careers built around climate science, and if the reality is that it's not a real problem, many of those academic careers would be unnecessary. So a big motive is self preservation. These people might actually have to work for a living. The truth is the general public is ignorant as to the facts- and easily manipulated.

The smaller countries propagate these lies because they see dollar signs- if they sue the good ol USA- there might be a sizable paycheck in it for them.
The UN propagates these lies because they are a collection of these countries who have their hands out.

And why does the left constantly use scare tactics and lies about global warming? Because it funnels money away from the productive sectors of our economy and into the welcoming arms of government (the progressive god). The money can be blown on socialist programs because global warming is not real problem.

And EVEN if it is a "problem" and I am totally wrong here, carbon based fuels will be obsolete within 50-60 years anyway.

But there is always a test that the average Joe or Jane can use...

Go to the coast- and visit the beach where you hung out as a kid. Has the sea level gone up?

I do this every couple of years, I go back to Huntington Beach, Cali where I played as a kid many many years ago.
The water level is Exactly where it was in the 1970's. No changes at all, not even a centimeter.

Below is a photo where I spent many many happy days playing as a kid, exactly the same as it was in the 70's.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:58 pm 
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Environmental radicals honestly believe the only way to achieve change is to overdramatize the threat. Why so many of the nightmare scenarios forecast twenty years ago never came to pass.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:23 pm 
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The bottom line is that climate change research is government funded, always. If you don't fall in line with the chosen narrative that enables governments to better control the people and redistribute wealth, then you don't get funding, period. It's always about money and power and rarely about finding the truth.

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Meanwhile in CA, Jerry Brown is blaming everybody who doesn't march in line for the CA fires.

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Corporate money should not run the country..We the People should

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:31 am 
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I watched your little propaganda video there sport.

Total waste of time. The only answer this guy has is to fleece productive companies and funnel money into the government.

Then what will the government do with the money- nothing.

Same ol shit.

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