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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:27 pm 
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they just don't understand the human nature of evil people who seek more power at all costs.

Oh, you mean like Robert Mercer and Steve Bannon and fundamentalist "Christian" cults and oligarchical corporations and individuals? That kind of evil? The kind of evil with far more wealth and functional power than most world leaders and nation-states? Or also, like, say, Halliburton, Raytheon, fossil-fuel corporate, the Koch Bros, or wicked charismatic hateful men like Pat Robertson? Or degrading fascist enemies of the people like Joe Arpaio? The predators, gaslighters, and fascists of unfettered Late-Stage Capitalism's worst offenses?

Are you saying that those people and companies have the same kind of power that a dictator with nukes has?


No. I'm saying they have far far far more power than a dictator with nukes has. Just look at him. He's pinned down on the Korean Peninsula. They're poor as dirt and stretched thin. That's not world power.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm 
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One of the things that's interesting in an administration that has been so dysfunctional and negligent in appointing its executive government posts is how it was that they were so absolutely certain it was going to be Nikki Haley that they wanted in the UN that they announced it on Nov. 23rd of last year. She seems to be a long-held part of a plan, The Plan, for this administration to execute in Asia. So far, they seem to be moving unswerving in coordination with its puppetry, because I don't believe that Trump even knew where North Korea was on a map three years ago. This isn't coming from him, exactly.

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U.S. Ambassador Haley: U.N. has exhausted options on North Korea
by Doina Chiacu, Reuters, September 17, 2017

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said on Sunday the U.N. Security Council has run out of options on containing North Korea’s nuclear program and the United States may have to turn the matter over to the Pentagon.

As world leaders head to the United Nations headquarters in New York for the annual General Assembly meeting this week, Haley’s comments indicated the United States was not backing down from its threat of military action against North Korea.

China has urged the United States to refrain from making threats to North Korea. Asked about President Donald Trump’s warning last month that the North Korean threat to the United States will be met with “fire and fury,” Haley said, “It was not an empty threat.”

“If North Korea keeps on with this reckless behavior, if the United States has to defend itself or defend its allies in any way, North Korea will be destroyed...
(full article) http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-haley/u-s-ambassador-haley-u-n-has-exhausted-options-on-north-korea-idUSKCN1BS0IN?il=0

Of course, responding to her opening statement, it's not really up to the United States what options the UN Security Council have or when and how they have been exhausted. Is it becoming of any US Ambassador to the United Nations to state point blank and aloud that the United States will contemptuously defy UN charter? Flipping the table and walking away to commit some new functionally-unilateral war crime is not legitimate. You psychotic motherfuckers have reduced my world to a steaming pile of feces once already under the Cheney/Bush administration, despoiling everything, and once was one time too many for one lifetime, you affronts. We don't consent. Not in our name. Not my President. Not America's President. Not credible. Not legitimate.

We keep saying North Korea is the threatening one, even as we make far more credible threats at them, over and over and over again. Isn't there like a law against that? Of course, ask any woman who stood too close and she may be able to explain that Trump is a serial harasser. But beyond that, we run afoul of some treaty commitments that I would see our country and our Federal government held to absolutely, whatever it takes to save the day and preserve the peace for this generation and for posterity.

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Article 1 - The Purposes of the United Nations are:

1. To maintain international peace and security ... and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace...

2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace...

Article 2 - The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.

1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.

4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
(http://www.un.org/en/sections/un-charter/chapter-i/index.html

So, ironically, it would appear that United States is actually the biggest problem now for the United Nations to fix. We're in the cross-hairs of their mandate when we threaten to reduce other countries to lakes of fire for "any" infraction, real or perceived, great or inconsequential, of which there is an endless litany.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:47 am 
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List of countries that. in 2000, did not have a Rothschild owned central bank:

Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran

List of countries in 2011 using the same criteria:

Cuba
North Korea
Iran

It is amazing how madmen and terrorists are so against central banking.... Now, everyone, back to your normal propaganda channel....

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So, ironically, it would appear that United States is actually the biggest problem now for the United Nations to fix.

In your opinion, it always will be. In my opinion, it's the UN that's an inept organization that has a history of making sure the US gets knocked down as many notches as possible, with US citizens paying the bill.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:44 am 
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ChromaKey wrote:
We keep saying North Korea is the threatening one, even as we make far more credible threats at them, over and over and over again.


oh baloney! Yet another example of the "blame America first" doctrine.


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To the extent World War Three presently surrounds us and has for at least fourteen years, it is because of the United States' oft-contemptuous defiance of the United Nations charter and purpose, full stop. That makes us culpable and liable for all harms connected to our wrongful actions, policies, and alliances. We are badly exposed. This is, in fact, real fascism. Something needs to change such that we no longer threaten and abridge world peace. If you disagree, and I know some here do, then functionally you are the enemy of humanity and you are not civil. I'm sorry to be so frank, but it is what it is, and, collectively, we stand where we stand at a crossroads where many of us are simply not willing to follow you in that direction. We never were. We never will be. Ever. What do you think is going to happen next?


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Calm down Chicken Little. Stop living your life in fear of nuclear war.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:26 am 
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Tarryall wrote:
Calm down Chicken Little. Stop living your life in fear of nuclear war.

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At U.N., Trump threatens “total destruction” of North Korea
DenverPost, By Jonathan Lemire and Darlene Superville of The Associated Press, September 19, 2017 at 9:00 am

UNITED NATIONS — President Donald Trump, in a combative debut speech to the U.N. General Assembly, threated the “total destruction'” of North Korea... Trump... previously warned of “fire and fury...” Trump frequently belittled the U.N. as a candidate... While running for office, Trump... suggested it was “not a friend” to the United States or democracy...
(full article) http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/19/donald-trump-un-address-north-korea/

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:23 am 
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ChromaKey wrote:
Tarryall wrote:
Calm down Chicken Little. Stop living your life in fear of nuclear war.

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At U.N., Trump threatens “total destruction” of North Korea
DenverPost, By Jonathan Lemire and Darlene Superville of The Associated Press, September 19, 2017 at 9:00 am

UNITED NATIONS — President Donald Trump, in a combative debut speech to the U.N. General Assembly, threated the “total destruction'” of North Korea... Trump... previously warned of “fire and fury...” Trump frequently belittled the U.N. as a candidate... While running for office, Trump... suggested it was “not a friend” to the United States or democracy...
(full article) http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/19/donald-trump-un-address-north-korea/

You were saying?

Where did he say he is going nuclear? The US has some very impressive conventional munitions that can end North Korea as a threat. :wave:

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