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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:08 am 
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In what’s shaping up to be the most visible online protest in five years, some of the most popular sites on the internet — including Reddit, Amazon, and Vimeo — have promised to, in some way or another, shove it in visitors’ faces that the Trump administration’s FCC wants to reverse existing net neutrality protections.

https://theoutline.com/post/1829/july-1 ... e-internet


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:43 am 
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...the Trump administration’s FCC wants to reverse existing net neutrality protections...


No. They are "reversing" The Obama administration's arbitrary reclassification of the Internet as a common carrier Telecommunications utility (instead of an information service), so it could be completely regulated by political FCC bureaucrats with practically unlimited authority.

Net neutrality and internet regulation should be handled by Congress passing a modern internet specific law, not by executive action redefining something in order to use 1930s Telephone laws designed for the ATT monopoly.

https://www.cnet.com/news/net-fix-title ... -industry/


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:59 am 
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After years of seeing the media run around like Chicken Little I am curious to find out how bad this will be. I suspect the drama and fears are overblown.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:52 am 
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That is right, nothing happened yet over the last 25 years without a "Net neutrality" law. Worry about it when/if it actually becomes an issue.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:27 am 
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The Internet is a telecommunications utility, and a human right. It is not an information service. This is not 1988; we're not dialing up a walled garden timeshare service like Compuserve or The Source. We're certainly not wide-eyed and amazed Eloi-- we're more savvy and network-integrated than ever, and the Internet has long since become an incontrovertibly integral and non-elective part of living well in our modern world. It's a shared achievement of mankind, and it is not some crass resource from which oligarchs and pirates may fleece out and extract value from people's lives. Allowing worthless middlemen to try to install toll booths on the conduits of knowledge and connection cannot be justified, excused, or tolerated. The United States has fallen badly behind other parts of the world in formally recognizing and enshrining in Enlightened policy these obvious truths and these rights that have become inalienable in the 21st century.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:23 pm 
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ChromaKey wrote:
The Internet is a telecommunications utility, and a human right.


Oh BS. The ever growing long list of things wacko progressives claim as "rights" is getting beyond ridiculous.

You continue to confuse general societal "expectations" with rights, and dilute the importance of basic rights we have in our constitution, which your buddies continue to poop all over, and you are fine with that when the ends justify the new "rights" you invent.

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The internet is simply a connection of transmitted digital signals that can be processed and shared and can be almost anything...information, media, video, audio, advertising, transactions, communications, etc.............................


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:33 am 
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If FCC gets its way, we’ll lose a lot more than net neutrality
ArsTechnica, by Jon Brodkin, 7/12/2017

The Republican-led Federal Communications Commission is preparing to overturn the two-year-old decision that invoked the FCC's Title II authority in order to impose net neutrality rules. It's possible the FCC could replace today's net neutrality rules with a weaker version, or it could decide to scrap net neutrality rules altogether.

Either way, what's almost certain is that the FCC will eliminate the Title II classification of Internet service providers. And that would have important effects on consumer protection that go beyond the core net neutrality rules that outlaw blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization. Without Title II's common carrier regulation, the FCC would have less authority to oversee the practices of Internet providers like Comcast, Charter, AT&T, and Verizon. Customers and websites harmed by ISPs would also have fewer recourses, both in front of the FCC and in courts of law.

Title II provisions related to broadband network construction, universal service, competition, network interconnection, and Internet access for disabled people would no longer apply. Rules requiring disclosure of hidden fees and data caps could be overturned, and the FCC would relinquish its role in evaluating whether ISPs can charge competitors for data cap exemptions.

These aspects of Title II are part of why consumer advocacy groups and Web companies have teamed up to protest FCC Chairman Ajit Pai's plan to overturn the net neutrality order with today's "Internet-wide day of action to save net neutrality." The consumer protection powers provided by Title II are also part of why the FCC's lone Democrat, Commissioner Mignon Clyburn, voted against Pai's plan to start the process of reversing the net neutrality rules.

Title II is "the most legally firm authority that we have... when it comes to protecting consumers..."
(full article) https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/how-title-ii-goes-beyond-net-neutrality-to-protect-internet-users-from-isps/


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:09 pm 
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That is right, and I'm glad you posted it. I've been saying this for the last 2 years or so, the misapplied title II gives a partisan FCC practically unlimited authority to regulate the Internet. So it is better for Congress to pass an Internet specific law and define that authority, in a limited way hopefully.

This is what you get when you give the power to a politically partisan FCC. So stop whining. Live by the executive pen, die by the pen.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:17 pm 
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joeschmo wrote:
...the misapplied title II gives a partisan FCC practically unlimited authority to regulate the Internet. So it is better for Congress to pass an Internet specific law and define that authority, in a limited way hopefully.

I suppose this is like "Rescind health care. You'll love what we replace it with in some magical imaginary future, never mind the gap! You can eat cake!"

The global Internetwork is not the mindshare nor property of predators to be consumed for their private sociopathic pecuniary preference nor have value fleeced out and extracted. It's not an information service, it's a telecommunications service. Consumers must be protected, this is the only way they'll be protected. US Congress is not credible, it's deeply corrupted and four times out of five services the interests, preferences, and predilections of corporate oligarchy over The People's enlightened best long-term interests where such conflicts arise*.

* (http://yourevergreenwebsite.com/evergreenforum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=14668&p=79044&hilit=oligarchy+study#p79044)


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:46 pm 
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I don't really have a problem with consumer protections and net neutrality regulations that make sense. Just do it right and have Congress pass an Internet regulatory framework instead of using the old Telephone monopoly laws from 1930.

And no... the global internetwork is somebody's property and investment and you don't get to confiscate it after the fact with an executive order.


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